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Dravidian, Mande and Elamite
By
Clyde Winters
In this Web page we learn about the linguistic relationship between the Dravdian, Mande, Elamite and Sumerian languages.
THE GENETIC UNITY OF BLACK AFRICAN
,ELAMITE, DRAVIDIAN AND SUMERIAN LANGUAGES
by
Clyde A. Winters
A genealogical relationship exist between the Black African, Dravidian, Elamite and Sumerian languages. This is not surprising because African languages were used by Rawlinson, to decipher the cuneiform script.
We must consider the historical link between languages assumed to possess a genealogical relationship, although they are separated by thousands of miles. The anthropological factors involved in determining a genealogical relationship is the scientific study of the cognate origin, and the physical, social and cultural development and behavior of related groups. This has already been done in the earlier chapters in regards to the
Black African, Puntite and Dravidian languages. We have already shown that there is a connection between the basic vocabularies and identical constituent structures and grammatical categories.
The Elamites, Dravidians, Sumerians and Manding are all of
Proto-Saharan origin . In the history of mankind they were called the Kushites . Testimony of the great heritage of the Kushites, resulted from their boldness in trade and seafaring expeditions. The authors of ancient Indian literature claimed that the Kushites ruled the world for 7000 years. According to Epiphanies, the age of the Kushites extended from the Flood to the age of Terah, the father of Abraham, the prophet of the Jews and Muslims.
In the ancient inscriptions of Africa and Asia the Kushites were called many names including Kush, and Ethiopian by the Greeks and Romans. In Sumerian inscriptions the Kushites were called Meluha=Kasi Books on this topic
There are several books that discuss the ancient Afrocentric world, including W.E.B.DuBois’: Negro and The World and Africa; John G. Jackson, Introduction to African Civilizations; and Chiekh Anta Diop’s : The African Origin of Civilization, and Civilization of Barbarism. All of these books can be obtained by ordering directly from:
If you have comments or suggestions, email me at cwinter@orion.it.luc.edu
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BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL! 
September 2, 2008 at 10:20 pm |
Hi, I am a graduate of the Barbara Brennan school of healing. I have been a channeler for 25 years. I am able to “see” energy fields since birth. I have always “known” that these early races were black. MANY BLACK PEOPLE CARRY AN AURIC FIELD THAT EXPRESSES AN ANCIENT-NESS AROUND THEM.
I am able to “hear” their words of wisdom. There is nothing empirical in my studies, although I have read ancient works all my life. Seeing your sight, I couldn’t resist talking to you.
Once , during a channeling for a class, I did an imagery where the class was taken back in time to the time of Gilgamesh. I wanted them to experience this time of a surge of civilization. To experience the Eloheim. The first men were black because of course they had to be! I saw them. In this lifetime, I am not black. I carry the gene, yes! I also saw that we were once a binary planet with 2 suns. Oh well, thanks for your time. Light, Jo
February 8, 2009 at 10:45 am |
The Black race was genetically modified and used to mine gold in Africa by the Anunnaki of Nibiru. If you want to know about jews, jesus, etc, then do a search for Ralph Ellis.
February 9, 2010 at 4:12 am |
If the dravidians are indeed black how come they do not look black
December 27, 2010 at 2:49 am |
Do not look for African blacks in the northern parts of India and Pakistan as they already got mingled with many races. People should realize that there is a portion in South India and Sri Lanka where all these blacks live.
February 9, 2010 at 4:17 am |
well tell me why the indian dravidians are not having kinky hair and african features? If you go to the arabian gulf you will see many people looking like some of these people from dravidian background and how come they do not have any african features the hair is straight or wavy and the features are not like the black africans you people tell to many lies to suite yourselves i think some of these africans who claim this should take a visit to india and they will get a eye opener
July 26, 2010 at 3:48 am |
do you know anything about India, Genetics, or history? I assume you don’t based on your comment. First, Dravidian is not race or color, it’s a group of languages. second, straight hair doesn’t exclude blackness. many blacks have straight hair and thin noses and lips. Third, the indo-european arab thieves who occupy arabia, egypt, and other parts of africa, are not the original inhabitants of any of those places. yes, arabs aren’t the original arabians. learn something before you start yapping.
August 11, 2010 at 8:46 am
u know nothing my friend dravidians are from the ancient elamites who were a dark middle eastern race actually fool i am a indian muslim and my background is also iraqi! actually fool before u start yapping u should know that many africans from egypt ethiopia somalia are mixed with semitic people do u know anything hamitic there are are some hamitic races who do not look negroid u should know this
August 11, 2010 at 8:50 am
and bud there is no such thing as indo arabs what? yes we many muslims have arab background because the arab muslims brought the best religion in the world to our country thats islam arabs are semitic coming from shem in tamil elam means homeland
August 11, 2010 at 8:57 am
many of the dravidians are not black my friend many have all sorts of brown colors! hey ameen tamil and brahui are dravidian and these two languages are from dravidian this language is non aryan
August 11, 2010 at 9:09 am
The Elamites
The people of Elam (yes in Tamil, Eelam means homeland), were the first to civilise the Iranian Peninsula. in the 2700 BC period. They were contemporaries of the Egyptians, the Mittanis and the Hittites. The Elamites were a significant people. till the 800BC in Persia (modern day Iran).
The Elamites concluded a major treaty with the Akkadian King King Naram-sin (Naram to Narain and Sin is the moon goddess, Chandra; possibly Narayan Chandra). Akkadian language is itself implicated in being in cahoots with Sanskrit and Indus Valley languages – and the creation ans spread of most modern languages except Sino languages. One of the most prominent rulers of Babylon was Nebuchadnezzar (as spelt in English). Replace ‘b’ with ‘d’ and you are very close the Tamil name of Neduncheziyan (Nedunchedianuru) – a current and modern Tamil name. Interestingly, Neduncheziyan is more famous as the fabled erring Pandyan King in the Tamil classic – Silappadhikaaram. Neduncheziyan mistaken justice, brings him grief and finally death. Neduncheziyan is overshadowed by the other King, Cheran Senguttuvan’s fame in the Tamil classic, written by Jain Saint, Elangovadigal.
Where It All Started
The oldest Indian language, not based on Sanskrit, is Tamil. There is 3000 year old history that Tamil language has, which makes it one the oldest, living language. Related languages are in use even today in Pakistan, where the Brahui tribe speaks a related version of the Tamil language. The Brahuis have marriage preferences which are similar to South Indians (cousins preferred in marriage) – rather than North Indians. BRAHUI, a people of Baluchistan, inhabiting the Brahui mountains, which extend continuously from near the Bolan Pass to Cape Monze on the Arabian Sea. The khan of Kalat, the native ruler of Baluchistan, is himself a Brahui, and a lineal descendant of Kumbar, former chief of the Kumbarini, a Brahui tribe. The origin of the Brahuis is an ethnological mystery.The origins of the Brahuis are even more puzzling than those of the Baluch, for their language is not Indo-European at all, but belongs to the same Dravidian family as Tamil and the other languages of south India spoken over a thousand miles away. One theory has it that the Brahuis are the last northern survivors of a Dravidian-speaking population which perhaps created the Indus Valley civilisation, but it seems more likely that they too arrived as the result of a long tribal migration, at some earlier date from peninsular India. Bishop Robert Caldwell and other authorities declare them Dravidians, and regard them as the western borderers of Dravidian India. The Brahuis declare themselves to be the aborigines of the country they now occupy, their ancestors coming from Aleppo. For this there seems little foundation, and their language, which has no affinities with Persian, Pushtu or Baluchi, must be, according to the most eminent scholars, classed among the Dravidian tongues of southern India. Probably the Brahuis are of Dravidian stock, a branch long isolated from their kindred and much Arabized, and thus exhibiting a marked hybridism.
If you are interested in doing further research around Tamils in Sri Lanka, Eelam, Elam, You might want to dig into these papers.
The most of infomation presented here is copied from: View From A Square Prism
and rest http://www.1911encyclopedia.org/Brahui
1.Velars, Uvulars and the North Dravidian Hypothesis
Journal article by David W. Mcalpin; The Journal of the American Oriental Society, Vol. 123, 2003
2. http://www.harappa.com/index.html
3.http://www.harappa.com/script/maha3.html
4.http://digilander.libero.it/elam/elam/second_column_speech_pf.htm
5. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Bay/7051/anwrite.htm
6. http://books.google.com/booksid=UUiuFvYath0C&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=brahui+tribe+language&source=web&ots=fsJmqL3sEq&sig=lEZEZ5dS5Fvio3atKaGRUKpUtgI 7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elam
Posted by illusions at 08:07
Labels: elam, Elamities, Sri Lankan Tamils, tamil eelam, tamils
August 21, 2010 at 2:58 pm
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/images/large/brahui-chief.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/brahui-chief.html&usg=__0-hycj1IK66X-s7mpu23RopQxso=&h=550&w=341&sz=52&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=J-72rFBwws9C_M:&tbnh=147&tbnw=91&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbrahui%2Bpeople%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D575%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=647&vpy=46&dur=519&hovh=147&hovw=91&tx=103&ty=122&ei=NelvTJKTJIP2swPb8KSACw&oei=NelvTJKTJIP2swPb8KSACw&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0
October 16, 2010 at 2:49 pm
thats because their mixed the dravidians have had this feature for thousands of yrs
October 7, 2010 at 8:54 pm |
I think you and a host of white and other races other then Black Arican people that believe in the lies told in the white history books are sad and need to stop hateing.
White anthopogist have discovered the “REAL HISTORY OF MAN” and it’s sure as hell did not start with the white people.
You “other people” want to be like the Black African People” in every way and form; yet you dont want to believe that Black African had any history except that of being slaves.
A bit of advice to you (all of you) who have no real understanding
of anything when it comes to history of even your own people; do your research before speaking the “HATRED” that has been breeded into your families for 100’s of years.
Dont hate the black african race because it’s a true “FACT” not a myth that yes the black african race are the reason any other race are possible.
Enlighten your self to “TRUTH” instead of what your herd and I dont care if your from Arabia or Europe claiming your white heritage, seek the truth; cause it sure as hell will set you free from an enslaved white washed mind; husayn
PEACE!
April 23, 2010 at 11:59 pm |
No they were not the dark middle eastern race the elamites are related to the dark dravidians of india and in tamil elam means homeland! the elamites did not have kinky hair it was straight or wavy just like our people! the elamies are from elam son of shem son of NoahPBH not Ham whom the africans come from! Prophet Abraham was semitic a chaldean not african looking some of the africans are ignorant u are not the first race but a race that evolved along with other races the semitic and japhetic. you guys are claiming the elamites are from you but have you ever used your brains and thought how come the majority of them settled in india and in the middle east with a small population in africa only in certain areas particularly the coastal regions and not found further deep into afica where the kinky haired strong featured africans are dominant why do the ones who look like indians do not have african or negroid features? when any one sees a dark persian who have elamite background people never say oh he looks like african NO they say oh he looks like tamil or sri lankan or south indian never they say african Why the elamites are our people and we possess are the features of the elamites
April 24, 2010 at 12:01 am |
we possess the same features as them
August 11, 2010 at 8:53 am |
after some time i realized that there are many different hamitic races and the elamites were probably a altered hamitic race because of shem som elam henc the name elamites after thousands of years we have kept the features of straight to wavy hair and this is pure tamil
September 7, 2010 at 3:00 am |
Why, why was the truth not taught in our schools and churches? It is like black people did nothing.
For 30 years I worked in a organization where I was the only black person. I have nothing against white people, but a lot of whites believe that blacks have done nothing for mankind.
How do we fix the belief this divid between the Races?
September 20, 2010 at 1:39 am |
In the beginning, all roads lead to Sumer; until recently, it was the earliest recorded civilization (currently, the oldest extant documents are from Egypt). Sudan predated Egypt by thousands of years and Egyptian culture is an extension of Sudan. ALSO, there are other parts of AFRICA that share the same ritual practices. AFRICA is the richest continent on earth and much of the findings point there for the oldest human life!!!!
Stop it with all this ALIEN RACE BS and genetically engineered garbage. History is staring you BLACK in the face!
September 20, 2010 at 1:56 am |
…and let me make another very important point. The Dogon of West Africa, Mali were able to locate a star system known as Sirius B without the use of a telescope. This legend was discovered by two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain Dieterlen, who recorded it from four Dogon priests in the 1930’s. By the way, a documentary of this is still available. How did a people who lacked any kind of astronomical telescopes or devices know how to locate an invisible star? The star, which scientists call Sirius B, wasn’t even photographed until it was done by a high powered telescope in 1970.
October 16, 2010 at 2:54 pm |
this is tamil dravidian
http://www.torontolife.com/features/were-here-were-tamil-get-used-it/?pageno=1
tell how even though he is dark resembles ethiopian?i said we are from ham and shem
October 16, 2010 at 2:56 pm |
http://jackgruber.com/athens/iraq-2/
when pic comes up click on image to enlarge the moroccan soccer in green resembles our people the dravidians ex tamil
October 16, 2010 at 3:03 pm |
this is brahui dravidian they live in pakistan afghanistan and balochistan
http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/brahui-chief.html
December 15, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
husayn first off the reason why nothing u say makes sense is beacuse you are basing all your knowledge on the quran which aint original it came from the bible which aint original either the bible came from hebrew scripts n where did hebrew scripts come from who invented paper it surely wasnt the arabs or muslims it was the egyptans with payprus so all dis hamitic this n semitic dat u aint saying nothin homie dat shit would of got you laughed at 300yrs ago tlkin bout who is hamitic n semitic especially in terms of race for when the city of Ur of chaldea was discovered and archaeologists exxcavated the site and found skeletons buried in graves they did research on the dna left in bones to determine racial compostion of the people and were quite flustered to find out that the Chaldea which is another name for Babylon was not aryan white as they hoped to perpetuate the blonde hair blue eyed civilizing man but was black or as they called it “negroid with mongoloid” affinities.So if Abraham came from Ur n married an ethiopean women which meant not a specific land back then but a race of people from a specific land called Alkebu lan or by the natives of the region or Afrika by later white romans he must of been black also with mogoloid affinities and was the forefather of Jacob n Moses an all the others which meant they 2 must of been black aint nothin new about history but the words n names homie get out chur fog sun worship was the first n only worship of the ancient times and the sun god or sky god or air god or watever u want to call it was the most important deity in ancient cultures for death happened in the night and security was available when the sun came up so in fact black people were thought in those times to be the chosen people of god due to the suns obvious affinity with the color of there skin those they spent the most time and were the most connected to the gods i could spend hours reschooling you but i have not hours to waste so post up replies to anythin i say or anything u wanna bring up i prolly know bout dat 2
October 16, 2010 at 3:22 pm |
tamil soccer players
http://www.timescontent.com/tss/showcase/preview-buy/149291/Sports/Santosh-Trophy-match-Soccer-players-Tamil-Nadu.html
October 16, 2010 at 3:39 pm |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/srilanka/5324790/Why-dont-we-care-about-Sri-Lanka.html
sri lankan tamils
October 17, 2010 at 1:07 am |
these people are very different than ethiopians in features
October 17, 2010 at 1:17 am |
these people look nothing like ethiopians yes i agree we are unique hamitic race because of shem’s son elam but features we have is different the dravidians have looked this way for thousands of yrs they are hamitic in type but with straight hair
October 17, 2010 at 1:20 am |
this man is ethiopian yes does resemble us but majority of pics i have seen are nothing like us and why are there so very few like us in east africa?
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor/00/eth6.stm
October 17, 2010 at 1:31 am |
this is ethiopia not even close to the ethiopian man above !two different types of features! i have met many ethiopians but i found very few who resemble us also bare in mind the ethiopians do have a lot of semitic heritage this is the reason for the straight hair if they do have but these groups are in particular asrea and are not the majority
http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-People-of-the-Lipplates-36867.shtml
October 17, 2010 at 3:24 pm |
tamils
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/sri-lanka-faces-humanitarian-crisis-as-150000-flee-fighting/2007/03/18/1174152881644.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
tamil dravidians
http://www.sangam.org/2007/06/Displacement.php?uid=2432
October 17, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
tamil dravidians
http://www.theage.com.au/national/thousands-more-tamils-to-come-20091019-h50f.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
tamils
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/04/28/sri-lanka042809.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:33 pm |
tamils
http://beta.thehindu.com/news/national/article63043.ece
October 17, 2010 at 3:36 pm |
tamils
http://connect.in.com/tamils/photos-tamils-171-3767caed4cb294a0.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:39 pm |
tamils
http://www.theage.com.au/national/dreams-of-freedom-drive-tamils-onto-boats-20091023-hdfa.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:42 pm |
tamil dravidians
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/29/commonwealth-vetoes-sri-lanka-bid
October 17, 2010 at 3:44 pm |
tamil muslim
http://www.twocircles.net/2010feb23/tamil_nadu_going_shut_door_minority_languages.html
October 17, 2010 at 3:57 pm |
brahui dravidians back row
October 17, 2010 at 10:02 pm |
muslim tamils
http://wordsdomination.com/lalpet.html
October 17, 2010 at 10:06 pm |
tamil muslims
http://wordsdomination.com/lalpet.html
October 17, 2010 at 10:13 pm |
tamils muslims
http://tmpolitics.wordpress.com/category/%E0%AE%85%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%A4%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BF/
October 17, 2010 at 10:26 pm |
tamil muslim i posting a lot of pics 4 you guys to show you the variety of the tamil people from super dark to fair the elamites before us were same and also when these straight haired hamitic also from shem mixed with the arabs and persians the children were probably very nice looking
http://tmpolitics.wordpress.com/category/%E0%AE%A4%E0%AF%81%E0%AE%AA%E0%AE%BE%E0%AE%AF%E0%AF%8D/page/2/
October 17, 2010 at 10:28 pm |
tamil muslims!scroll down the page to view pic
http://muduvaihidayath.blogspot.com/2009_02_02_archive.html
October 17, 2010 at 10:30 pm |
tamil sayyid
October 18, 2010 at 12:27 am |
these two look like mix with nepalese one on right has asian eyes dravidians are dark but do not have this feature but the dravidians of bangladesh mixe with other people of that area
http://www.ecoindia.com/tribes/munda.html
October 18, 2010 at 12:59 am |
these people are not dravidian they come from juang tribe
http://www.indianetzone.com/8/juang_tribe.htm
October 18, 2010 at 12:36 am |
dravidians of bangladesh the dark fellows in background many of the women in pic look asian not from our people
http://thirdworldorphans.org/gpage10.html
October 18, 2010 at 1:06 am |
these are munda dravidians
October 18, 2010 at 10:25 am |
these are ethiopians who are blessed but resemblance to our people nope i agree there are few like us there but not many after thousands of yrs in our purest form we still have straight hair not kinky and also a variety of brown colors
http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Africa/Ethiopia/North/Tigray/photo166211.htm
November 19, 2010 at 11:57 pm |
I think dravidians are closest to homo erectus.
January 18, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
sai baba is a dravidian who is phenotypically african/
professor clyde winters makes a strong case for the afro/dravidian connection. please see the link to his paper
Click to access Winters.pdf
we are all connected/ watch “the real eve” video, it shows the incredible trek of an african tribe who followed the food source which led them out of africa 150 million years ago and subequently populated the rest of the world/ all human mtDNA can be traced back to this common ancestor/simply mind blowing-
one people- one love:-)
August 14, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
Sorry, Indians haven’t been related to Africans for more than 60K years. Genetic distance between Indians and Africans is .33 whereas genetic distance between Africans and Iranians is .21, so Iranians are even genetically closer to Africans than Indians even though Indians are much darker than Iranians.
March 25, 2011 at 12:22 am |
I am Tamil. And i agree that our ancestors were African. But to be associated with ‘AFrican’ or ‘black’ is a form of embarrasment as ‘black’ is portrayed as something negative thanks to Europeans brainwashing tactics.
So i know many black tamils walking around denying they have any connection to black people of Africa.
May 11, 2011 at 10:44 am |
The term ‘black people’ is not an indicator of skin color but of racial classification. This should not be confused with dark-skinned people that are found in several non-african parts of the globe. For instance, there are several dark-skinned non-african groups that can be found in Philipines (Ati tribe), in Malayasia (indigenous Malays), Gulf Arab countries, australasians, Fijians (indigenous Fijians),etc. In the same way the dark-skinned Dravidian people are not Black (Afros) but dark-skinned non-African people. When we use the term Black as a racial group, it refers to people with wooly hair, thick lips, besides very dark-skin.
May 11, 2011 at 7:17 am |
Certain tribes in Kerala, like the Pulayas and Vedans share greater similiarity to Blacks (dark skin, thicker lips and curly hair), than the tribes in Tamil Nadu. The tribes in Tamil Nadu look closer to the Australian Aborigines. It’s interesting to note that the general dark Dravidians in Central Tamilnadu, do not have any Afro features except for their dark skin. They generally have delicate features more closely related to the caucasians. They could very well be the dark Mediterraneans. Another point of interest is SriLanka, where the Tamils are considered to be Dravidian and the Sinhalese considered to be Aryan. The former is clear, but the latter is confusing. The Sinhalese are culturally, because of their buddhist religion, closer to North Indians who are bracketed as Indo-Aryans. However, if you observe their physical traits, they are very similar to the Tamils. The Sinhalese (see their cricket players)are generally very dark and have very similar Dravidian features. They in all probability are Dravidians by race, but Indo-Aryan by culture. The final analysis is that there has been a lot of mix over the bygone centuries among different major racial groups, and this has left a lot of mixed racial traits especially among various groups of people in the Subcontinent, including Srilanka
August 14, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
That’s because many tribal people in India are related to Australoid groups.
September 15, 2011 at 7:07 am
actually c5 is found in low frequency in india
July 7, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
man in forefront
this is true feature of afro asiatic people!
July 7, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
http://www.torontolife.com/features/were-here-were-tamil-get-used-it/?pageno=1
this is tamil the sumerians and elamites were very similar to each other they were both in the indus valley
July 7, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
http://jackgruber.com/athens/iraq-2/
moroccan player in green is like us
July 7, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
tamils
July 7, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
tamil muslims!
July 7, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
http://travel.webshots.com/photo/1544804801084237302waxioM
yemeni men the three to the left are like us dark indians!
July 7, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
dravidians are a mixture of australoids (like australian aborigines) & caucasoids (indo-aryan).
July 7, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
nope fool u are not from there so stop talking bull really the c5 ydna is found in low frequency in india and c4 y dna is not there buddy dravidians are L so any more bull to feed me?
July 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
http://www.purefocus.co.nz/?thegallery=human
boy sitting with green and white bowl is from yemen same as us dark indian the people of phut also settled in yemen
July 7, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
imam tabari ra said the people of phut settled in sind and india
they were and are straight haired type we do not have any kinky haired or woolly haired type like some of ethiopians and somalis!
July 7, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
southern indian
July 7, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
http://www.pbase.com/oochappan/image/38344810
tamils
July 7, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
we have sheedis who were brought to india through slavery and they have their own community and they still have their own african language and culture
July 7, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
http://www.pbase.com/oochappan/image/73824272
tamil
July 7, 2011 at 4:56 pm |
http://www.imagesofasia.com/html/pakistan/baluchis-dress.html
brahui dravidian!
July 7, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
southern indian muslims
July 7, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
southern indian muslim
July 7, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
http://www.pbase.com/oochappan/image/79751096
tamils
July 7, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
southern indian muslim
July 7, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
southern indian muslims
July 7, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
http://forum.stirpes.net/physical-anthropology/12605-arabian-veddoids.html
same as us dark indians
July 7, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
http://www.pbase.com/ulfstahle/image/123092966from yemen ]
same as dark indians
July 7, 2011 at 5:10 pm |
http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=101726
south arabian man is same as us he is wearing black turban
the elamites as well as sumerians went india they were in southern arabia and they also crossed the red sea thats why there are some indian looking people in somalia and ethiopia hindu culture belonged to the dravidians/sumerians and and the elamites also straight dark type type adopted many things from the sumerians
July 7, 2011 at 5:14 pm |
southern indian muslim singer and for some of you who tendd to be ignorant u should know the Pallavas who were the parthians (iranic) race ruled all of southern india google it u will see it is true and dravidians have fine features and many have very straight noses people write all kind of nonsense experts of nothing
July 7, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
southern indian muslim singer the music is mediteranean sounding
July 7, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
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July 7, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
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July 7, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
now it is clear i have dreamt 2 times dravidians are from the sumerians and 1 time dreamt they are from canaan
July 7, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
this is dravidian language or a branch of it this is not aryan type dialect he is singing!
July 7, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
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September 4, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
Hi Husayn,
I am really impressed at the way you are explaining the facts to some people on this page who clearly do not know why black people are called black.
I have no hatred for the black race and I respect the fact that all races at the end of the day descended from them.But, for some reason, some people and certain blacks seem to want to associate themselves with Dark skinned people just because they are dark.
Ganging up with people in a room or city is fine. But trying to ride on the back on the lost found glory of Tamil culture and roots to Sumeria just goes to show how ignorant people are, not to mention their immaturity.
It displays a lack of understanding of lingusitics, genetics, and most importantly history or even a shred of logic.
I study at Oxford, I am into medical research. But, if you are interested you should contact scholars at Cambridge who work on this particular topic, it maybe of interest to you. This is because Cambridge has a Centre for Tamil research.
Btw to the rest of you, it is a Tamil research centre, not a black research centre. If you want to gloat about your civilization, go back research about Africa and tell us something about it. We would love to hear about it and will always back you up. But, don’t tell us twisted things just to make you feel better. You have lots of things to be proud of, try to speak about that. We do not want to be called as ‘you’ because for a simple reason , tamilians and malayalees belong to the M20 subgroup, while the african blacks, belong to the L group which is very different from the rest of the world. The problem is since you are not proud of yourself, you want to try and be someone else. Find something of your own, I am sure there is a lot to be proud of. But, let it be your own,not borrowed.
July 7, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
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July 7, 2011 at 5:38 pm |
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tamil actress some of u people are the biggest joke south indians have different shades of brown to black and many that are fair and also dusky
July 7, 2011 at 5:42 pm |
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September 9, 2011 at 12:57 am |
HUSAYN THE INDIANS HAVE STRAIGHT HAIR BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACKS WHO MIXED WITH WHITES AND ASIANS WHOM THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS. IF YOU LIVED DOWN SOUTH IN THE USA THEY WOULD CALL YOU THE N-WORD AND YOU WOULD STILL BE AT THE BACK OF THE BUS. IN 1960’S
September 15, 2011 at 7:03 am |
actually no i dreamt of the Prophet PBh 8times and i have dreamt a explanation of the dravidians i dreamt they are negroid (hamitic) in type with straight and were also egyptians some of u donkeys are so stupid there are many different hamitic types! not all hamitic types look like afro american wake up fellow your mind is very small and i think alot of u are jealous because of our hair texture and we do not have negroid features like u do too funny
for thousands and thousands of yrs there are dark people with straght hair two dark cultures of ancient iraq are the sumerians=dravidians and the elamites=afro asiatic
sumerians are not ethiopians this is a lie!!!!!!!!!! i have dreamt 2 times the sumerians are the dravidians and 1 time the dravidians are from canaan son ham
October 1, 2011 at 11:12 pm |
hello my dear friends.. happy to c some humans here discussing about where we came from n who were we are.. lemurian civilization has the answer for it.. manuscripts stolen by dutch in 17th century which is now in Vatican library has t answer.. even old testament have t answer.. garuda purana in sanskrit has t answer.. clay tablets of sumerians has its answer.. hello my dear friends.. happy to c some humans here discussing about where we came from n who were we are.. lemurian civilization has the answer for it.. manuscripts stolen by dutch in 17th century which is now in Vatican library has t answer.. even old testament have t answer.. garuda purana in sanskrit has t answer.. clay tablets of sumerians has its answer..
October 19, 2011 at 6:57 pm |
To Hasyn- Due to climatology and diet different genes can be expressed while others can be suppressed. It is through the homogenization process that you can take an African with very Africoid features and reinvent those features through the climate and diet. Ex. If one were to take 500 Black Africans from Senegal and keep them within borders over the course of about 1000 years, their bodies would conform to the environment and diet. However, what should be mentioned is that if those Africans were to mix outside of their group after the millenium is completed then of course you’ll have a breed of mixtures. This is the case with many peoples of the Earth, vis. Arabs. What I believe is that you subconsciously don’t want to acknowledge these current Dravidians as historically black because you suffer from colonial mentality, as it were. Which means you idolize the Caucasian, so as to reject anything African about the Dravidian. The first Dravidians were what you deem African. However, using today’s Dravidians as examples isn’t just myopic, but foolish.
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September 25, 2012 at 7:53 pm |
First off there is no such thing as a white race.People just don’t use their minds.Just like to say you are black there is no such thing.Caucasin afican american.Why does no one ever think what it means.Dna test I am not so sure of as with anything else they could be munipulated if in the wrong hands.As things have been done all through history.Many various languages are now extinct.If your language is extinct,your lands no longer,as years pass so does everything else.People become confused as to the truth.God did not play favorites so lets get off playing race cards.It is more about believing in God and his son Jesus.We all have the power of choice for a reason it is to chose in what you believe.One must not forget all the pagen rituals and idolatry of every group in years ago.So that God had to come to a group of peoples in order to reviel the truths and to take away the pagenism.In the bible I do not believe it speaks of race it speaks of people from various areas.It started form Noah and his three sons here on earth.Yet I will also point out in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.God was standing somewhere,The devil was already here on earth.He tempted eve with the apple.The devil had people here also which are the nephillium.They mated with the humans which are mortal which means die and the devils which are immortal which was never to have occured also a reason for the flooding of the earth.Noah and his family belived in good and thus were saved.Life began agin starting with his three sons.The evil immortals were not all destroyed as they could not all die at that time.Where do you think the pagen worship comes from?There was a mixing of the people always.The chosen will be the ones who chose to believe in God and the son Jesus and uphold good.You shall not go around destroying earth,animals ro hating anyone based on race etc.. As to hate based on race is stupid to begin with.Why would you not like based on color of skin.Did any of us chose before we were born who our parents would be.Thus you could have been any race!The beginning race was not black or white as anyone wants to claim!Sorry but husayn does have valid points.By the way my skin is a shade of white and according to governments standards I must put caucasion.However without dna I can tell you that my direct decendants are cherokee and irish.Therefore you makeup has nothing to do with your color and your language during this day and time could have came from anywhere.I would also like to point out that in biblical times when they battled and overthrew a town,city whatever they enslaved or converted the people there at the time .So at any given time any race of peoples could have been enslaved.If you will look at todays world true we do not wear shackles in most places anyway.We are enslaved to our governments.We work for them,recieve a pay check.Pay whatever taxes they require of us and go by their laws.We are not a free people.
September 30, 2013 at 2:29 am |
From the kushite derived a few empires including the nubians, nubians ruled egypt for over 100s of years they were pushed out by the assyrian empire as they were blocking its trade routes. But kushite empire was not Ethiopia its Sudan read before you write there even archaeological building of the kushite empire in sudan, coz its much older than nubian empire most of its record cannot be found as it was an empire that used mud technology and it was very advance during its time. and the pyramids in sudan are a result of nubia which was more recent. Greeks and both byzantine ruled well tried to rule sudan (nubia and kushite)
September 6, 2014 at 9:51 am |
SUMERIANS ARE TURKS, NOT BLACK, WHERE IS YOUR PROOF? I CAN UNDERSTAND ANCIENT EGYPT LANGUAGE AND SUMER, BECAUSE SUMERIANS SPEAK TURKIC AND EVERY EXPERT KNOWS THAT. EVEN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN IS MORE LIKE OUR CULTURE THAN BLACK…LEAVE TURKISH ANCIENT HISTORY ALONE…YOU ARE LIKE GREEDY GREEKS THINK EVERYTHING BELONGS TO YOU..RACIST BLACK PEOPLE, GO STICK WITH YOUR VOODOO
September 6, 2014 at 12:13 pm |
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Why are some Sumerian words same as the Turkish words?
First word is Sumerian, second are Turkish (same or similar across all Turkish languages.
Gadun ———— Hatun
Assinu ———– Asena
Gig-Anu ———- Göktanrı (Gök ana)
Tammuzi ——— Temmuz
Domuzi ———- Domız
Ginç ——— Genç
Auşk ——– — Aşk
Tar- kus-u ——– Talih kuşu
Ungar ———- Uygar
Altun ———– Altın
Anu ———- Ana
Tengiz———- Deniz
Gozam-Ozam —— Ozan
En-gur-ra ——— Ankara
Tamga ——— Damga
Me-en ———- Men-Ben
Agıl ———– Akıl
Bar ———– Var
Er-Eş ———— Erkek-Kadın
Rakibu ——- Rakip
Aga ————— Ağa
Balag-ba ——– Balaban
Kes-da ———— Kesmek
Bira ————- Bira
Tagga ———— Takke
Ge —————– Gel
İlig ———- İlik
Et —————– Et
Mum ————- Mum
Huma-kus-a ———– huma Kuşu
Sin ————- Sin(e)
Karra ———— Kara
Batu ———– Batı
Sar ———— Sar(ı)
Heak———- Hak
Mesu ———- Meşe
Engin ———– Engin