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“OBAMA CLAIMS DELEGATE LEAD”FROM POLITICO.COM

February 7, 2008

from politico.com

Obama claims delegate lead

By: Mike Allen
Feb 6, 2008 08:24 AM EST
Updated: February 6, 2008 11:09 AM EST

With the delegate count still under way, NBC News said Obama appears to have won around 840 delegates in yesterday’s contests, while Clinton earned about 830.

In a surprise twist after a chaotic Super Tuesday, Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) passed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) in network tallies of the number of delegates the candidates racked up last night.

The Obama camp now projects topping Clinton by 13 delegates, 847 to 834.

NBC News, which is projecting delegates based on the Democratic Party’s complex formula, figures Obama will wind up with 840 to 849 delegates, versus 829 to 838 for Clinton.

Clinton was portrayed in many news accounts as the night’s big winner, but Obama’s campaign says he wound up with a higher total where it really counts — the delegates who will choose the party’s nominee at this summer’s Democratic convention.

With the delegate count still under way, NBC News said Obama appears to have won around 840 delegates in yesterday’s contests, while Clinton earned about 830 — “give or take a few,” Tim Russert, the network’s Washington bureau chief, said on the “Today” show.

The running totals for the two, which includes previous contests and the party officials known as “superdelegates,” are only about 70 delegates apart, Russert said.

The bottom line is that the two are virtually tied.

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Obama won 13 states, some of them smaller, and Clinton won eight.

On Wednesday morning, the battle was on to shape public perceptions about Tuesday.

The Clinton campaign said it was crunching its delegate numbers but was not sure it was correct that Obama got more.

The Obama campaign sent an e-mailed statement titled: “Obama wins Super Tuesday by winning more states and more delegates.”

Campaign Manager David Plouffe said: “By winning a majority of delegates and a majority of the states, Barack Obama won an important Super Tuesday victory over Sen. Clinton in the closest thing we have to a national primary.”

“From Colorado and Utah in the West to Georgia and Alabama in the South to Sen. Clinton’s backyard in Connecticut, Obama showed that he can win the support of Americans of every race, gender and political party in every region of the country,” Plouffe said. “That’s why he’s on track to win Democratic nomination, and that’s why he’s the best candidate to defeat John McCain in November.”

The Obama campaign attached an Excel spreadsheet containing “state-by-state estimates of the pledged delegates we won last night, which total 845 for Obama and 836 for Clinton — bringing the to-date total of delegates to 908 for Obama, 884 for Clinton.”

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Martin Edwin Anderse…
Location: Churchton, MD

Party: Democrat Reply #: 1

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:30 AM EST

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The Clinton camp’s claims of a victory, after spending weeks retreating from a much stronger position vis-a-vis her other competitors, reminds of the story told by John Kenneth Galbraith of debriefing the German Albert Speer at the close of World War II. How was it, Galbraith asked, that Speer knew his Germans were losing? It was, Speer replied, because the glorious victories of the Fatherland were growing ever closer to Berlin. Let’s liberate the Democratic Party from the occupation forces of corruption and moral relativism! The Big “O” has got the Big Mo !!! Go Obama !!!
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Geevill
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 2

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:32 AM EST

time for Clinton, Inc. to play the race card again… http://www.minor-ripper.blogspot.com
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Change4Better
Location: Simpsonville, SC

Party: Democrat Reply #: 4

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:41 AM EST

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>>Are you forgetting Florida and Michigan? oops.Take Care
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JFK Dem
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 5

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:42 AM EST

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Obama simply grows stronger each and every month as his name recognition and proposed policies gain more positive attention. When you look at last night given the Clinton machine’s smears, dirty tricks and distortions, it’s a pretty impressive win for Obama and a good indicator of where the country is going. It’s also an important sign that after every round, Obama emerges stronger. If I recall Terry McCauliffe told us for months that it would be all over Feb 5th. Instead it’s Hillary spinning and spinning last night and vowing to fight on….. I think Missouri is the portender of what is to come.
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VA4HRC
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 6

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:42 AM EST
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It drives me nuts that the TV networks colored in Florida and Michigan for Clinton. Obama’s name wasn’t even on the ballot in Michigan — and Clinton shouldn’t have been there either. She won simply because she didn’t play by the rules. In Florida, where candidates didn’t campaign, it was clear that a front runner with name recognition was going to win. If Clinton wins the nomination without Florida and Michigan, I’m happy to support her. But, if she loses to Obama without them but wins with them, and party bosses are convinced to have them count, I fear anarchy in the Democratic Party. We’d all better hope one of the two wins without Florida and Michigan.
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Neosteve
Location: NA

Party: Conservative Reply #: 8

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:47 AM EST

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VA4HRC: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:42 AM EST
Imagine how well Hillary would be doing if news outlets like Politico weren’t taking cheap shots at her everyday. Anyone who thinks Obama can beat McCain is crazy. Vote Hillary or face 8 more years of a Republican White House

Me thinks you are seriously confused. If anyone will polarize this nation it is Her Hillaryness. She will not stand a chance in the general election. If the democrats are serious about retaking the WH they had better nominate Obama.

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“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.” George Washington
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datashark
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 9

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:47 AM EST

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Dont be stupid Geevill. Everyone knows the rules going into this contest and trying to change them in the middle because your candidate is losing will only divide the people. Hillary is losing and that is a good thing! Down with the dynasty! Hillary will probably will come up with some spin or excuses for tuesday. If she can accept her loss like a grown up the party will stay together and probably win in november. If she gets mean and somehow steals the election from Obama that will destroy the Dem party as we know it. Personally I think they are both empty candidates and Mcain is only soso. Nothing to get excited about this election im afraid. Im an independent BTW.

AntiSocialism
Location: NA

Party: Democrat Reply #: 10

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:47 AM EST updated

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You take your 100-or-so more super delegates, HRC… Obama is coming! America wants Obama ’08!
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LogicalSolutions
Location: NA

Party: Independent Reply #: 13

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:52 AM EST

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I noticed that. The liberal media claimed Hillary the winner and then I noticed that Obama won in delegates. Since the score is kept in delegates… then Obama won Super Tuesday. Funny we didn’t see that headline anywhere.

Amazing how the Clinton’s can censor the news.

jakebobo
Location: Camp Verde, AZ

Party: Independent Reply #: 14

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:53 AM EST

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the real problem is the heifer is running against bush and he isn’t on the ballot. thank god she is unelectable.
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easy
Location: Tampa, FL

Party: NA Reply #: 15

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:57 AM EST

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He is slowly, inexorable moving to take her down. He is improving every week and every month plus he has the money to win the protracted battle. It is only a matter of time before the poison of the CLintons turns upon itself.

BrenMac
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 16

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:57 AM EST

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It’s time for HRC to cry and cough again. What I remember of Hillary Clinton is her reluctance to get involved when St. Lawrence Cement Company (a Swiss company) was trying to move into Hudson, New York, to dump tons of carcinogenic pollution into our area. Friends of Hudson begged for her help, thought they had secured her help, but she hedged and hedged and finally published a tepid supportive statement in an obscure fringe pub she thought no one would read. Afterwards, she denied that she had said what was in the article. When our hardworking volunteer group beat the Swiss Cement company after thousands of hours of work and ungodly legal bills picked up by a network of passionate citizens … she claimed the credit. Hillary Clinton is way beyond “politics as usual.” In New York, we’ve seen her close up and we know. By the way, many members of my educators’ union were outraged that our political action money was spent on her. By contrast, Obama seems to have a core of integrity and a world-class mind. If he doesn’t win the nomination,I’m not supporting Clinton.
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datashark
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 18

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:58 AM EST

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Andrew when the rules of the game change we will play by the new rules until then you saw in 2000 what the ultimate outcome was and should be. We are a nation of laws anything else is anarchy. Also we have this thing called representative government. If you delve into the subject you will begin to understand why our founding fathers made it this way. Without it we would have mob rule not the Republic we all enjoy to this day.

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Stephanie in Tx
Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 19

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 8:59 AM EST

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Break out the kleenex. I bet we will see some tears.

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Exercise your right to vote!

Location: NA

Party: NA Reply #: 20

Date: Feb. 6, 2008 – 9:00 AM EST

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interesting: Hillary Clinton has been telling America that she is the most qualified candidate for president based on her ‘record,’ which she says includes her eight years in the White House as First Lady – or ‘co-president’ – and her seven years in the Senate. Here is a reminder of what that record includes: – As First Lady, Hillary assumed authority over Health Care Reform, a process that cost the taxpayers over $13 million. She told both Bill Bradley and Patrick Moynihan, key votes needed to pass her legislation, that she would ‘demonize’ anyone who opposed it. But it was opposed; she couldn’t even get it to a vote in a Congress controlled by her own party. (And in the next election, her party lost control of both the House and Senate.) – Hillary assumed authority over selecting a female Attorney General. Her first two recommendations, Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood, were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. She then chose Janet Reno. Janet Reno has since been described by Bill himself as ‘my worst mistake.’ – Hillary recommended Lani Guanier for head of the Civil Rights Commission. When Guanier’s radical views became known, her name had to be withdrawn. – Hillary recommended her former law partners, Web Hubbell, Vince Foster, and William Kennedy for positions in the Justice Department, White House staff, and the Treasury, respectively. Hubbell was later imprisoned, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign. – Hillary also recommended a close friend of the Clintons, Craig Livingstone, for the position of director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of up to 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (“Filegate”) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, both Hillary and her husband denied knowing him. FBI agent Dennis Sculimbrene confirmed in a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing in 1996, both the drug use and Hillary’s involvement in hiring Livingstone. After that, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office, after serving seven presidents for over thirty years. – In order to open “slots” in the White House for her friends the Thomasons (to whom millions of dollars in travel contracts could be awarded), Hillary had the entire staff of the White House Travel Office fired; they were reported to the FBI for ‘gross mismanagement’ and their reputations ruined. After a thirty-month investigation, only one, Billy Dale, was charged with a crime – mixing personal money with White House funds when he cashed checks. The jury acquitted him in less than two hours. – Another of Hil lary’s assumed duties was directing the ‘bimbo eruption squad’ and scandal defense: —- She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. —- She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr’s investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs. —- Then they had to settle with Paula Jones after all. —- And Bill lost his law license for lying to the grand jury —- And Bill was impeached by the House. —- And Hillary almost got herself indicted for perjury and obstruction of justice (she avoided it mostly because she repeated, ‘I do not recall,’ ‘I have no recollection,’ and ‘I don’t know’ 56 times under oath). – Hillary wrote ‘It Takes a Village,’ demonstrating her Socialist viewpoint. – Hill ary decided to seek election to the Senate in a state she had never lived in. Her husband pardoned FALN terrorists in order to get Latino support and the New Square Hassidim to get Jewish support. Hillary also had Bill pardon her brother’s clients, for a small fee, to get financial support. – Then Hillary left the White House, but later had to return $200,000 in White House furniture, china, and artwork she had stolen. – In the campaign for the Senate, Hillary played the ‘woman card’ by portraying her opponent (Lazio) as a bully picking on her. – Hillary’s husband further protected her by asking the National Archives to withhold from the public until 2012 many records of their time in the White House, including much of Hillary’s correspondence and her calendars. (There are ongoing lawsuits to force the release of those records.) – As the junior Senator from New York, Hillary has passed no major legislation. She has deferred to the senior Senator (Schumer) to tend to the needs of New Yorkers, even on the hot issue of medical problems of workers involved in the cleanup of Ground Zero after 9/11. – Hillary’s one notable vote; supporting the plan to invade Iraq, she has since disavowed. Quite a resume’. Sounds more like an organized crime family’s rap sheet.


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